Anyway, he has a friend who is also in the military, and... always seems to miss some major aspect of any issue, in that same zeal for force that my acquaintance has. And so today, he asked two questions:
How come whenever a smart bomb kills civilians people makes a fuss about it? Even though it's unintentional.There are screamingly obvious answers to these questions: killing people is always wrong, even if it is done out of incompetence; and you need to read the papers, because suicide bombings are covered extensively in our media, so long as the victims are our key allies. I was recently told that Sri Lanka has a much higher rate of suicide bombings than Israel, but Sri Lanka doesn't have a key alliance with us, and so I've only been led to believe by the mainstream press that suicide bombings are performed by (a) Palestinians and (b) various people in Chechnya.
And no one makes a fuss when the suicide bombers deliberately target civilian populations?
But he didn't ask the question to get an answer (though I foolishly answered). Those were really just statements of position from someone who works in the military, which really meant: the military is not responsible for its accidents, and ONLY the victims within our allies are important.
If you were in the military, would you say the same thing? You might. It might eat you inside, but you might. Which is sad.
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My main acquaintance then made some additional statements. The key items were:
One man's crusade is another's genocide.He had several variations of this, which looked like they were leading to an interesting point... But the point is that he agrees. It's all relative; it's all fine; call it what you will.
This is why the U.S. can't lead on any issue of international law. Our leaders keep saying we WANT to be the world's policeman and moral compass... But we don't OWN moral compass. It's whatever works for our allies at this moment. There's no standard of human rights or law that ACTUALLY applies equally to everyone. And that makes the world very confusing.
I like to think that few Americans are like this, but the ones who are like this say so, and are in vogue right now in the corporate media. I believe I only have one acquaintance in a circle of a 140+ people who thinks like this. But he really believes it, whereas most other folks I know will less extreme opinions are open to discussion, and they adjust their opinions over time to match their experiences.
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(Certain kinds of experience help explain militarism, too. Anyone who wants to militarize you puts you in an extreme situation, especially where [whatever military or vigilante force you're in] has done some harm and is unwelcome, providing an opportunity for armed soldiers to feel threatened by the locals, and bond over their need for mutual defense. It's apparently quite effective.)
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So there was some back and forth. I noted repeatedly that killing people is wrong, no matter who does it - in this instance, Hezbollah OR Israel. This was flatly rejected. When I got specific about Lebanon, it was rejected even more zealously - in favor of just one side.
Another excerpt:
Me: Under international law, it is illegal to kill civilians in other countries to irritate some other group...So, you see, bombing the fleeing civilians (including Americans!) in Lebanon is fine, because it is an anti-terrorist act, even if it is not being taken against terrorists. See? Well, okay, it doesn't work. But you see where he's going? Sort of?
Him: Isn't that what the terrorists are doing? Or, have done. So, am I to surmise that terrorism is illegal? Isn't anyone stopping them? Or, wait, someone is doing something about it.
Summary: Hezb. kills anyone = bad; Israel kills anyone = automatic anti-terrorism = good.
There are variations, of course, but this is the overall summary.
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I feel even worse for my friend than before we had this conversation. I had even asked if there were any circumstances that he could justify having any ally or non-ally kill his family for anti-terrorism purposes, in hopes of having him express some sympathy for either the Israelis catching missiles or the Lebanese catching bombs. He basically said there were such situations, but that he didn't want to commit those to writing. :-(
If this was 1950 and we were similar but back in time, and if our policies then had allowed him to move here from his home country, he'd probably say the same thing about sacrificing his family for the glorious cause of anti-communism. Or, if we were in the 1950s in China, perhaps he'd say the same thing for pro-communism, to be patriotic.
So now I feel EVEN WORSE for my friend. He's been unhappy in many aspects of life, including his military assignments/stations, and now he's burdened with this type of non-thinking. He's always the first to express defensiveness over any military incident that could lead to accusations of "baby killing," having read his history of Vietnam, but now he finds himself in the position of defending the killing of civilians in actual and hypothetical contexts, with a few self-pitying comments about how bad that must look.
It looks bad, and I feel bad that he feels that way. But I can't help him. I think of that website, sorryeverybody.com, where Americans apologize for not electing a better president (or, at least not electing the current one). I'd like to post something that says, 'Sorry world: I have this friend who thinks that killing is fine in general, and he's in the military and is stationed in your countries, and I can't change his mind.'
Perhaps when he leaves the military, and that attitude is no longer adaptive to the macho, force-based environment he works in, he'll get better.
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There are LOTS of veterans in my family, male and female, especially on my dad's side, and none of them advocate killing in casual conversation. That gives me hope.
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The folks in the peace movements around the world, who want a better place to live with their families, and who like the idea of universal human rights also give me hope. Because they want the sort of world that I want to live in, too.
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I know that American foreign policy is a mystery to many, especially over the last few years. Also: the American justice system, which is so clearly rigged based on economics. And American attitudes toward foreigners, which swing like a pendulum. I think it is confusing because we expect it to make sense, when most people who make the confusing announcements are just like my old classmate, and are merely taking sides and justify them later, without any absolute ethical or moral values that would provide a consistent base.
To paraphrase the current figurehead and add a few clarifying comments in plain speech:
You're either with us or against us.Sorry everybody.
If you are with us, you can do no wrong.
If you are against us, you can do no right.
We reserve the right to redefine who is 'with us' at any time.